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Meeting Minutes:

Cross Party Group Title:

Wales International

Date of Meeting:

27/02/24

Location:

Senedd Cymru - Welsh Parliament, Cardiff Bay, Cardiff, CF99 1SN

 

In attendance: 

Name:

Title:

Ruth Cocks

Director Wales – British Council Wales 

Abigail Doyle

Project Support Officer – British Council Wales 

Professor/Dr Claire Gorrara

Dean of Research and Innovation – College of Arts, Humanities and Social Sciences, Cardiff University  

Lucy Jenkins

Project Director – MFL Mentoring Project 

Kate Barber

 Research student - School of English, Communication and Philosophy, Cardiff University

Tallulah Holley

Education Consultant and Researcher

 

 

Naomi Taylor

 

Subject Officer for German - WJEC

Claire Bellamy

 

MFL Subject Officer - WJEC

Victoria Ucele

Wales China Schools Project Manager - Cardiff Confucius Institute, Cardiff University

 

 

Dr Catherine Chabert

 

Reader in French, Executive Director of Confucius Institute – Cardiff University

Najma Hashi

Change Maker Support, Office of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales

Carlos Sanz Mingo

 

Senior Lecturer in Hispanic Studies and Translation Studies – Cardiff University

 

 

Sioned Harold

 

EAS Consortium

Elin Arfon

 

Research student – Cardiff School of Modern Languages, Cardiff University

 

Jeremy Jones

Founder member of the All-Wales Network of German Teachers

 

Dr Ian Collen

Director if Initial Teacher Education – Queen’s University Belfast

Brooke Webb

Heledd Fychan MS Senedd Staff

 

Niahm Salked

Plaid Cymru Senedd Staff

 

Gareth Llewellyn

Senedd staff Peredur Owen Griffiths

 

Alex Sims

Senedd Staff Jenny Rathbone

 

Gerard Pitt

Welsh Government

 

Anna Miller

Welsh Government

 

Kerry Bevan

PGCE Secondary Modern Foreign Languages Programme Leader – Cardiff Metropolitan University

 

Susana Galvan Hernandez

Executive Director – Taith

 

Nazaret Perez-Nieto

Senior Lecturer in Spanish – Cardiff University

 

Liz Wren-Owens

Dean of Postgraduate Education for the College of Arts, Humanities and Social Sciences, Reader in Italian, and Translation Studies – Cardiff University

 

Bethan Mumford

Education and Mentoring Project Officer - Modern Foreign Languages Mentoring Project – Cardiff University

 

Bethan Spencer

Qualifications Manager – Cymwysterau Cymru/Qualifications Wales

Claire O’shea

Head of Partnership – Hub Cymru Africa

Elen Davies

Senior Journalist Reporter – BBC Cymru

 

Elham Gharib

Consultant Schools Global Programme – British Council

Glynn Downs

Chair - Global Futures Steering Group

 

Vicky Gough

Senior Consultant, Schools global programme – British Council

 

Rosalind Gould

Media and Campaigns Manager, UK – British Council

 

Dr Jayne Duff

Research Assistant, School of Social Sciences, Education and Social Work – Queen’s University Belfast

 

Marina Saez Lecue

Project Support Officer - CSC

Aobh Mcanulty

Assistant Consultant – British Council

 

Jenni Tabea Rall

Project Co-ordinator for Educational Services – Goethe Institut

Heledd Fychan

Member of Senedd

Peredur Owen Griffiths

Member of Senedd

Rebecca Beckley

Region Co-ordinator Language Horizons Student Mentoring Project – Cardiff University

 

 

Apologies: 

There were no apologies for this CPG meeting.

 

Summary of Meeting: 

Chair’s Welcome:

A brief introduction of the panel and a run-through of the agenda was given. There was no Welsh translation available for the meeting due to the logistics of room availability.

 

Presentation of Language Trends Wales Report by Dr Ian Collen:

Ian is the lead researcher on the Language Trends Wales Report, which started in 2015. He also works on the Language Trends England, Northern Ireland, and Scotland projects with his colleagues at Queen’s University Belfast.

The Purpose of the Report is to monitor the trends of International Languages across schools (primary and secondary) and post-16 colleges in Wales to gather an idea of the state of International Language teaching and learning in the Nation. To gather data for the research, three surveys are sent to Welsh schools and colleges every year that the project runs.

The most recent report queried:

·         What languages are being taught in primary schools.

·         The readiness of schools to be able to teach International Languages.

·         What International Engagement looks like in primary schools.

·         What International Languages are being taught at KS3 and KS4, as well as the time allocated to these lessons.

·         What the International Dimension of language learning looks like in schools.

·         How the Curriculum for Wales has impacted International Language learning.

·         What the statistics of post-16 engagement with languages look like.

 

Presentation of the Pupil’s Voice from Dr Claire Gorarra and Lucy Jenkins:

Dr Claire Gorarra is the academic lead for the MFL Mentoring Project and Lucy is the Project Director of the MFL Mentoring Project. The purpose of MFL Mentoring is to engage pupils in schools with language learning by encouraging them to develop a multilingual mindset through mentoring by university students.

125 secondary schools and 10 universities across Wales are engaged in this project and 6000 students have been surveyed regarding which subjects they enjoy the most in school. It found that, out of 13 subjects, English falls 3rd, while International Languages fall 11th and Welsh language falls 13th.

Much of the project’s work revolves around understanding why pupils don’t engage with languages. They found students are curious about the diversity of languages but there are blocks to their learning paths (e.g. departmental cuts, more subjects to choose from, etc).

 

Presentation by Jeremy Jones:

Jeremy is the Founder of the All-Wales Network of German Teachers and carries out research into language learning with teachers.

The main points raised by Jeremy were that:

·         It has been felt by secondary teachers that the new Curriculum for Wales does not support the teaching of International Languages.

·         Primary schools feel as though they are not ready to teach International Languages, as they feel they do not have the time of the qualifications to do so.

·         International Languages are in decline in secondary schools, particularly German. This has led to departmental cuts, meaning there is little or no engagement with languages from pupils.

·         Qualified language teachers in secondary schools are leaving their roles, as they believe that the new Curriculum for Wales does not resolve the decline in the uptake of international languages.

·         Jeremy highlighted that there is a need to campaign to promote the teaching of languages and requested that the Welsh Government engages more with schools and listens to school leaders regarding this subject.

 

Floor opened for discussion on Jeremy’s points.

Matters raised were:

·         Overall, language subjects are in decline and are at a higher risk of disappearing than other SHAPE subjects (Social Sciences, Humanities and the Arts for People and the Economy is a collective name for the social sciences, humanities, and the arts).

·         Is the value of learning a language being explained by educational organisations and bodies to pupils? Do educational organisations understand what pupils consider ‘valuable’ about language learning and how language learning can be relevant to them? It was highlighted that learning a language is not only about travel, but it solidifies cultural relations and connections between countries and/or people.

·         Brexit has negatively impacted the desire for language teaching and learning. It has meant that the value of learning a language is being lost due to disconnect with other cultures.

·         Using bilingualism (e.g. Welsh and English) and the efforts Wales has made in this area to achieve multilingualism for Wales. We can learn from the efforts to promote Welsh learning to also promote International Language learning.

 

Next steps:

During the meeting, the members of the Senedd who attended were unable to answer questions directly. However, it was agreed that they will raise the points mentioned in the CPG in their meetings.

Heledd Fychan has agreed to write letter to Jeremy Miles outlining the matters discussed in the CPG.

A thanks was given to all attendees and attendees were encouraged to send links relating to their expertise to the Secretariat.

 

The meeting ended at 13:00.